Identifying Scavenged Components

 

"I took apart a [name your junk]. How can I figure out what all these parts are and if they still work?"

Many BEAM newbies report having difficulty identifying scavenged electronic devices.

Tracking down parts on the internet is possible. It takes some time to do. It takes some time to learn what numbers on the part to look for. It also takes some time to learn what to search for and how to search….

Sometimes, especially for custom "in-house" chips, you strike out. There are specialty VLSI chips that, say, decode the video signal, or that encode the button press on a remote control. You won't find much BEAM use for them anyway (until you get really into it). For most ICs and transistors, however, you should have some success.

Here are some general strategies to use:

  1. Identify the part before you unsolder it, because often you can get clues from the PCB (Printed Circuit Board). The label on the board may give a generic part number, or there may be other information you can use. There is a common shorthand: R = resistor, Q = transistor (I don't know why*), C = Capacitor, U = integrated circuit, L = coil. If the label beside a three-legged device says "Q17", you know it's a transistor. On a VCR board, for example, find the IR receiver, the one that reads the signal from the remote. Follow the trace from the IR receiver to an IC. This IC will probably decode the frequency signal from the remote. You might be able to use this chip along with the receiver as part of a robot that you can control with the remote. You will want to keep this IC and all the resistors and capacitors connected to it together. You might even saw out the chunk of PCB it's on. But don't do this until you have identified the chip and know where its input and output pins are!
  2. Learn to read the codes on the component. A component label usually contains three things:

a) the generic reference number (or "name")

b) a code telling the manufacturer and the date and place the chip was made

c) other code telling the temperature rating, package, etc.

It takes some time and practice to learn how to read these.

 

Now for some specific examples that are sitting on my desk. Here is what is on the first chip I look at:

FP0148AB

MM74HCT240N

MC74HCT240N

The first letter F is in italics, and tells me the chip was manufactured by Fairchild. (A stylized 'M' is Motorola, a little map of Texas is Texas Instruments, ST is for Sanken; all the manufacturers have some little logo for their product). The rest of that first line is a "house" code that tells where and when it was manufactured. I really don't care about that. The next two lines tell that the chip is temperature rated for normal consumer use or higher (again, you can search the Fairchild site to learn exactly what these codes mean, but who cares). The "N" at the end says that it is a plastic dual inline package, or PDIP, but I already knew that because I've got it here in my hand....

I usually start with Google, though in this case I might try the Fairchild website first. Searching for the first number, FP0148AB, will give nothing useful. Searching for ALL of the second line probably won't produce much in a Google search, but might give me what I want on the Fairchild site. The manufacturers site is generally a good place to look, if you can figure it out. A list of manufacturers is attached at the bottom.

Lopping off the letters at the back often leaves the right number, and if that fails lop off the first two characters and try again. So I would search first for "MM74HCT240N", then "MM74HCT240", then "74HCT240". If I strike out again, I might leave out some of the middle letters and just search for "74C240", "74HC240" and so on.

Each manufacturer uses a different code, so there isn't much consistency. The Fairchild number is MC74HCT240N, where the N at the end says it is a DIP (dual inline package, a fairly large chip with many legs) but the same chip from Texas Instruments might be SN74HCT240P (the P at the end is for PDIP or Plastic Dual Inline Package). How does one learn all of this? Practice! After a while, you learn what to look for.

I generally search for the number and the words "datasheet" or "specification" because that usually turns up a .pdf (portable document file, to be read with Adobe Acrobat Reader) with information about the pinout and electrical characteristics. It takes practice and patience.

Here's another chip sitting on my desk as part of a project:

FX124

LM

555CN

Okay, you know what the first line is--Fairchild and a house code. The actual part number is LM555CN, but it's a small chip so they had to put it on two lines. Search for LM555CN, LM555, or just 555 and you should get some info about this common timer.

Here's a specific example that I dragged up from the workshop for this tutorial. I have been meaning to look this up for a while now. I think it came from a fax machine, or maybe a printer. It's a four-pin device in a T0-9 package, like a power transistor, on a beautiful little PCB with a four position jumper and a 20-pin header. I left it all together because it looks like a complete unit. I am pretty sure it's a programmable voltage regulator because it says on the pcb that the different jumper positions are for 3.3V, 3.45V, 3.6V, and 4.0V . Sometimes the label on the PCB is an aid to identification, but this one is simply labeled "U1" which doesn't help. Still, I have learned quite a bit just from studying the PCB.

The chip itself says:

P030RV21 (pee zero three zero are vee twenty-one, but could be pee oh three oh…)

SHARP

2 M9 F3

Okay, the bottom line looks like a manufacturer's code showing time and place of manufacture. The chip is by Sharp, so I could start by looking for the Sharp website. A Google search for P030RV21 gives no results. I try "Sharp P030RV21", no results. I try "Sharp 30RV21" and learn that the device is a PQ30RV21--I misread that second digit as a zero. Dang, on the IC it sure looks like a zero! Anyway, I've got it identified and don't have to try anything with an "oh" instead of a "zero".

Google refers me to doom.com, a commercial datasheet service where I will have to subscribe and pay to get information. Nuts to that.

Back to Google to search for "Sharp PQ30RV21 specification" and bang! The top two URLs are

sharp-world.com/products/device/lineup/ data/pdf/datasheet/pq30rv1_e.pdf

and

sharp-world.com/products/device/ ctlg/esite23/table/128.html

Bingo! I download the .pdf datasheet for future reference and meanwhile check the specs in the table. There I learn that it is a low power-loss adjustable voltage regulator capable of handling up to 30V input and putting out a controlled voltage between 1.5 V to 30V at 2 Amps current... Wow, great chip! Maybe not something I'll use in a BEAM bot unless I run out of cheaper regulators. Hmm, wait a minute, I pulled this from some piece of junk, it was free!

But man, what a nice chip as the basis for a little variable voltage bench power supply! By changing the resistors and capacitors right on its pcb, I can change the outputs to, say, 3V, 5V, 6V, and 9V. Or I could put in a potentiometer and have a continuously variable regulated voltage supply. Or if I ever need a regulator for a super-sized BEAM walker, I've got one. Sheesh, two amps!

You can see how within five minutes, despite a few false starts, I obtained the information I needed. Sometimes the process takes a lot longer and you need to persevere... I hope this walk-through has been of some help to you.

Now, specifically for transistors. Only one piece of advice: Buy a good DMM. A good digital multimeter, one with a transistor socket and a hfe setting, is a real help. I had a lot of frustration with electronics and a high failure rate for my projects, even using new purchased transistors, before I got my multimeter to help figure out which pin was which!

The meter will tell you whether the transistor is funtional or blown, type it as PNP or NPN, identify the base, emitter, and collector, and tell you the hfe (or 'gain' or 'amplification') of the transistor. (This will not help you with a lot of things that look like bipolar transistors but aren't. SCRs, voltage regulators, UJTs, FETs, and a whole bunch of other things can fool you, and the meter may not help because it will just tell you that your 3-legged device ain't working as a bipolar transistor. In these cases you have to do a web search.)

An alternative to a multimeter is a little $20 device that RadioShack used to sell, called a "component tester". See if you can track one down. It will tell you PNP/NPN and give the pinout but will not tell you the gain. It will also identify FETs and SCRs.

Here's a tip: you can often substitute any small-signal switching transistor in a BEAM circuit. Sometimes a "scavenged" transistor will actually work better than the 2N3904 (or whatever) usually used. Simply breadboard the circuit using a new 2N3904 (or whatever) then power down, replace the 3904 with another transistor, repower, and note any differences. But in order to do this with any success, you absolutely MUST know the type (NPN/PNP) and pinout (ebc and bce are common pinouts).

Keep BEAMing and dreaming

Tom

* Note about use of Q as symbol for transistor

Wilf Rigter says it was an arbitrary choice by a committee. See "Re: [beam] A really good question", 2003 Feb 15
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/beam/message/33920

MANUFACTURERS

Sanken

.For STA401 and similar Sanken products, these numbers on transistors are often abbreviations for 2S type Japanese semiconductors. Look up the specs for these using 2SAxxx, 2SCxxx, 2SDxxx, etc, or check at http://www.allegromicro.com/skncatlg/array/array.pdf

http://www.alphacron.de/download/hardware/tra.tri.tyr.htm

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